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#21 WildRambler

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 12:12 AM

thanks man ill up the ph to 6, ill try and get some decent pics tomorrow


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 12:44 AM

I'm kinda with Forrest on this, that's a 1000w increase ! Overnight ! Norris put a 315w cdm inbetween his 2 x 600w duel spec hps and a very similar thing happened, the leaf edges curled up and inward, he dropped the light time on the cdm and gradually worked it up to 12 hours same as the hps

I'm also with deeks, run off seems strange and if readings are correct it seems to be massively underfed ! But surely if it was hungry it wouldn't curl upwards more like flop downwards ?

That'll be me wafflin again, done some ISO canna caps at chews 5/1 ratio ! Yes ! Tis the way forward !
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Posted 09 December 2016 - 06:15 AM

Too much light. I reckon.

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:02 PM

i always have them way up high at the start and bring em down gradually

 


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:30 PM

right guys i wasnt home in time to take a photo with the lights on but.....

i done the next best thing cause i remembered about my blue tinted glasses

so whipped them out and took photos thru them

 

tbh they are looking better since i raised the ph but i also turned the gas heater off too cause its milder

but im pretty sure its the ph that was the issue, i always gave em 5.8 in flower and a bit under here and there

in veg and been ok so far. ill stick to 5.8-6 in veg now and 6-6.2 in flower now

 

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the ones in the atuopots are taking a bit longer to respond maybe because they aint getting flushed out like the hand fed ones

so i gave a 5.8 flush of really weak nutes so fingers crossed they perk up

 

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:34 PM

im still confused about the yellow tips, fed em like normal with 1.5ml a+b ph`d to 6, ec  was 1.1 goin in, 0.3 to 0.4 out the arse end

 

maybe the too low ph was causing the yellow tips??? idk lol


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:38 PM

I'm kinda with Forrest on this, that's a 1000w increase ! Overnight ! Norris put a 315w cdm inbetween his 2 x 600w duel spec hps and a very similar thing happened, the leaf edges curled up and inward, he dropped the light time on the cdm and gradually worked it up to 12 hours same as the hps

I'm also with deeks, run off seems strange and if readings are correct it seems to be massively underfed ! But surely if it was hungry it wouldn't curl upwards more like flop downwards ?

That'll be me wafflin again, done some ISO canna caps at chews 5/1 ratio ! Yes ! Tis the way forward !

maybe u r right man but its strange it aint happened before, always done it that way


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:39 PM

They look Hank marvin to me m8 !
Maybe a quick foliar of A+B to get em green, fastest way I know that is ! Start at an ec of 2.0 yes 2.0 ! And up it until they look ok, no need to ph cos it's a foliar feed and not took in by roots, keep the temps under 26 degrees C as this is optimum temp for the stomata to open and take the nutes on !
Leap of faith I believe it's called !
I have done it before on plants in coco and in waterfarms, sorted em right out it did !
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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:47 PM

Maybe they really like a bit of nose bag, I've never gone over 1.4 ec in flower but copper top Gary windass, is feeding 1.2 in veg on his cheese plants, he took them outta terra pro plus and put em into coco, they looked like that for a week until he cranked the ec up !

Some strains love feed, some not so much

You say you've measured the run off via ec, what's the ph of the run off, if it's coming out lower on the ec it should be higher on the ph, than what's going in ! If so then they just hungry fekkers
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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:49 PM

cheers roy ill give it a try, the ec aint usually this low comin out the bottom at this stage, ill take the leap :)


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